Fabio Cardosa / Rio Bravo

In this week's Rio Bravo Podcast, we talked with the writer Moisés Naím, one of the most read authors of today and a member of Carnegie Endowment. At the beginning of this decade, Naim published the book "O fim do poder" (The end of power), a work that addresses how new and multiple powers are changing traditional models in politics, business and the media. Since the book's release, a series of events have, on one hand, pointed to the acceleration of the transience of power and, on the other, marked the rise of new leaderships, beyond traditional politics and business. In the conversation, the writer comments on the consequences of these transformations in an environment that is increasingly hostile and complex. Speaking about the role of leaders in the coronavirus case, Moisés Naím says: "It is a matter that involves science, and it is better that doctors, statisticians and epidemiologists take care of it; and politicians should support scientists in this". The interview is in English. (Translated from original text).